Claudia Dey and Heidi Sopinka

"We're very conscious of that aliveness in our relationship—and how it's always in process and in progress."

Shared vision is at the heart of every great partnership—but a good sense of humor helps, too. Claudia Dey and Heidi Sopinka understand this sentiment.

The two creatives met as undergrads at McGill University—and later at a bush camp, cooking for tree planters—and have lived multiple lives since then. In 2012, they co-founded the conscious fashion brand HORSES, which values beauty, utility, wildness, and endurance. They've also translated their artistic prowess into writing and have crafted incisive, spellbinding novels like (Heidi's) Utopia and (Claudia's) Daughter.

In this interview, the duo shared more about balancing their creative pursuits, living and working in Toronto, their relationship with time and pace—and their relationship with each other. This episode also opens with a story from Jacqueline Suskin.

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Claudia Dey, Heidi Sopinka, and Jacqueline Suskin